I’ve read many reconstructions about Antonio Conte’s sudden departure from Juventus. I think the most accurate and plausible one has been written by G.B. Olivero, a Gazzetta Dello Sport journalist who has been always rumoured to be close to the former (sigh) Juventus coach. He posted it on Facebook:
“After three days the most important question still stands. […] Usually football burns quickly its emotions. In the end, Juventus replaced the coach of the records with a coach that still has some records: he’s the only one in Europe to have lost a title with Ibrahimovic on the roster and is by far the most contested one at the day of the unveiling. No juventino wanted Allegri, so the situation can only improve. After all, Juventus fans should have a little fondness for him: without him, Pirlo would have stayed at Milan. But that’s not what matters because this time football didn’t burn anything quickly. The starting question stands: why did Conte leave?
[…] I’ve read creative reconstructions, as if Dan Brown wrote them: there is who says that the transfer market was decisive and others that say that it didn’t have any influence. They brought up some contacts with other teams. I don’t claim to know exactly how things went, but I’ve an idea about it. And I think it’s not distant from reality at all.
Conte was worn out by his juventinità, who made him feel badly about many situations that he could have handled with more sagacity. Antonio is not diplomatic, but he’s a winner. He wants more: he wants to win with Juventus (he’ll surely return sooner or later). He has two ambitions: being the best in the world and being it on Juventus bench. A year ago, he realized that the two things, at least for now, can’t coincide. He goes twice as fast as the management, and not because Juventus’ structure is humongous. Simply because he thinks and acts differently. One of the first things that he asked loudly a year ago was to be more involved in the managerial decisions (not only the transfer market). In italy we always say that replicating a Ferguson is impossible. Of course: we don’t want a figure like that. Marotta is expert, he knows how to do his job and especially (it must never be forgotten, Conte did it instead) he doesn’t decide the budget. But Antonio wanted to have more weight in certain decisions.
In May, Conte decided to leave because he didn’t see solutions or room for improvement. Sure, Juventus could have chased the fourth Scudetto in a row by scraping along, trying to win it almost out of inertia: that’s what the management asked him proposing a transfer market campaign completely different from what the coach designed. Conte wanted to overhaul the roster: too complicated with the current economic situation. Then he asked to invest everything on one player: Cuadrado. And instead he found three advanced negotiations on Evra, Iturbe and Morata. He didn’t agree.
But that’s not enough to explain the resounding ending. So we return to the starting point: Conte’s juventinità. In another club, he probably would have been a little less involved. Antonio didn’t feel he was part of the project because he didn’t share it anymore. To tell the truth, Agnelli and Marotta have always been honest with him. They never pictured a different reality, besides when the president told him that after the third year they would invest on the transfer market. A lie. Besides that, Conte is a dreamer but he really wants to live his dreams. And for his Juventus he had dreams that were more ambitious than the ones of the executives that, because of their role, have to be down-to-heart. Watch out: I’m not saying that the coach was right, because in a moment like this you can’t avoid considering the economic needs of the club. But he agreed to stand up for it if everybody did it. He couldn’t pretend to believe in something he was no longer passionate of, that didn’t warm him. Too much respect for Juventus and too much personal ambition: a transitional year (even though with a Scudetto-worthy roster) or “let’s see what happens” doesn’t belong to his mentality. He would have lived with that provided that they built a young and ambitious team to nurture for a couple of years before the European explosion.
Conte worn out himself before his players. The difference is that after the vacations the players usually feel better, while Conte doesn’t want to feel better: he wants to have a goal, wake up in the morning with a target in mind. Now he didn’t have one. And the continuous showing off of the excellent relationships with Agnelli and Marotta sound suspicious: Antonio felt betrayed because in these three years he gave Juventus more than what he received. According to the coach, it was the moment to have back: not money, not the renewal, but something deeper and more juventino. Targeting victory in Europe. It’s not sure that Conte’s reasoning is correct. Logically, Juventus and the other Italian teams have very little chances of winning Champions League. And with an healthy management of the group, maybe even with the departure on an elite player, Juventus could have aimed at the fourth Scudetto. But it would have been a conservative choice. Conte is a reformist: on the pitch and not only there.
It’s without answer the last why: why didn’t he leave in Many? Even before few days before the retreat he was still pondering. The management underestimated his disquiet, convinced that returning to work would have rectified it. Instead, it increased the problem. And the sudden unfold of the situation shows that the transfer market had a role: not only for the names, but also for the project of the overhaul.
With this story Juventus zeroed their advantage on the competition. They are on the same level, if not a little behind, of Roma and Napoli. The third place would be a good result, even though the starting grid will be decided only after the end of the transfer market. There are a couple of final considerations:
– Everybody made mistakes. In the timetable (if he wanted to leave, Conte should have gone in May), in the modes (Conte’s interview worthy of a dictatorship to JTV and the Agnelli’s letter weren’t successful), in the substance (the team is weakened and the fan base is wounded but also swindled because everything happened once the season ticket campaign was over). And only Juventus pay the price.
– Conte is an absolute ace. It will be more blatant next season.”
I dont think we ll ever find out the truth even tho we deserve it. Tho im sure a disagreement between Conte and management had to be one of the main reasons. Like you said, Conte only wants to win, and he i dont think he felt like the team was moving forward, so he left. But i dont believe that this decision was made just two days into preseason. Conte has been talking about this for a long time now, no way do i believe it was decided in a day or two.
Conte was moving faster than the current Executives could handle.
He wanted it all. European glory, new big names too boost the squad and trust.
And he got none of it.
Conte wants Champions League. Marotta says no. We’re done winning for now. Let’s just try with what we have.
Conte wants a young squad to built upon in the coming years. Marotta says no. You get Evra and we decide who to buy.
Disrespect led him out the door. I hope he will return some day and please may Marotta die in his sleep!
Things I hope for in the future is to have either of: Ottmar Hitzfeld, Lippi, Hiddink. As for players I would love to see Isco or Thiago Alcantara. As I said a all names mentioned in here are maybe witnessed in dreams but not in real life.
DelleAlpi – Yes, you are right none of the mentioned coaches are likely to come to Juve. Hitzfeld has retire from the football world, Hiddink prefers to coach national team, and Lippi can only come if Moggi returns to Juve. We should look to the future. Allegri appointment is the best option at this time. Juventus will continue to be successful.
Idk, if the rumors about udinese mutually ending guidolins contract so he could coach us were true, allegri certainly wasn’t the best option.
I always wanted hynecks if conte had left
Ancelotti would be nice too, or Van Gaal, Simeone or Klopp 😛 Just dreaming here.
Isco is someone Juve should jump at, Madrid want him out anyway and he could really work out at Juve. Combined with Shaqiri I’d call this the best transfer window in recent years. Even if we add Evra and Pereyra, there’s also some good deals with players leaving in Vucinic, Peluso and Quags. Hopefully Padoin soon joins that list
we should aim for deschamps. he’s a young coach but very experienced, knows what the shirt means, and imo is a better coach than conte.
When you said Deschamps was young i kinda questioned that then i looked uo and hes only 45… The years definitely havent been kind to him.
His France team wasnt convincing, but he is a Juventino, so why not.
he played defensive against germany, which is what any sane team did, and the african teams made everyone struggle during the world cup. aside from that france played very well. you have to remember that they lost their best player to injury right before the world cup and still managed to make the qf with a very inexperienced side. also, 3 years into his coaching career, he managed to lead an average monaco team to the CL final. he took us to back to serie a in the first attempt. he overachieved with a poor marsielle side. i have no doubt he’s the best option out their for us
Congratulations to Giorgione!! Who tied the knot today!
Rumors vidal has put his house up for sale
Any thoughts on this
Nigga wantz a mansion
nigga wants Italian babes…
Pretty sure it’s just bs. If if isn’t then looks like arrivederci Vidal 🙁
If hes leaving for 60m plus, and a bigger contract that Marotta wont provide, I understand. Hes accomplished just about everything he wanted with Juve, minus a CL.
A passionate viola supporter.
Oliviero was one of the few to change his mind about Calciopoli on Juventus. He’s probably one of the few, and capable, journalist in Italy.
ps. a little mistake in the end of the article.
“why didn’t he leave in Many?” 🙂
Allegri sounds like Ranieri, Zacherroni, and Del Neri.. all ending their last name with letter “i” .. all with the same results? 😛
This is definitely how it works.
What about Lippi and Trappatoni? They were great coaches.
post calciopoli coaches who end in i are terrible lol
This is off topic, but @juventusvidal, will you change your name if he leaves? 😉
He’ll go back to Moho maybe.
lol idk yet. i might.
you got me there! 😀
Ancelotti has an i too.
Ancelotti was in mind but I decided toname the two greatest
i hope allegri gives coman playing time. i know he only played youngsters at milan because he was forced to due to injury but coman deserves playing time.
Since we have been buyin spanish players latley why not go for isco also Morata
Attacking midfielder at least then will have a competitive squad for the season
i think, the issue here is if you want success, Juve needs to spend. Either Conte wants someone this transfer (maybe Sanchez) but management was not able to give him.
Also, who was Conte having problem with from management. Does management also involve the board of directors? or Marrota? Agnelli? or both?
What many don’t know is that a lot of the decisions made by the executives are luciano moggi’s ideas.
What does it matter?
Shows how incompetent our management is.
There is no other football administrator with the deep knowledge of football and the transfer market as Moggi. Agnelli has a close relationship with him and constantly ask advice.
But what about his cheating? Lol
Wouldnt surprise me if the likes of Vidal were brought in on the advice of Moggi
If only Moggi could still be a director…
How do you know this?
Papilaya – I worked 6 years as foreign youth scout for Juventus in the Americas during Moggi’s era. How do you think Moggi knows the details of everything that occurs in the Juventus headquarters? He and Juventus are still working together.
Oh wow thats pretty cool(you, not the Moggi thing)… So do you know if what theyre tellng us about Conte is true?
It is true that Conte wanted to expand his role from just coaching to have more control in management. However, Juve executives are in disagreement to give to much control to the coach. Moggi once said if he had a coach that went off limits he would fire him without second thought. Conte resignation is not necessarily for this reason only. He wanted a rest from his duties. He wanted to resign after the season ended, but was convinced by the board, like Nedved said, to think it during his holiday.
Official: Evra joins.
i hoped to see alot of Kingsley Coman this year. Apparently after the first training session ppl were saying hes the fastest player on the team. He could play as the centre attacking midfielder in a 4-3-1-2
he’s crazy fast which is why he’d be better out on the wing. i hope allegri realizes he needs to play a 4-3-3 to be successful in europe
We’ve got a whole lot of formations we could play which is good. I’d prefer the 4-3-3 over the 4-3-1-2 or 3-5-2 simply because it’s been known to do well in Europe. Apparently Allegri wouldn’t mind a 3 man defense. I hope he doesn’t keep it that way.
rumors are that allegri only played the 4-3-1-2 at milan because that’s the formation that berlu wanted him to play. i hope that’s true since he’d be more likely to play 4-3-3 here