It’s rough having a January birthday. I mean, it is convenient, since after Christmas most stuff gets a price cut, but, nowadays the winter mercato is always messing with my birthday. Last year, Juventus and Inter tried and failed to swap Mirko Vucinic for Fredy Guarin. That was rough. This year things changed a little bit. The day before my birthday, Sebastian Giovinco was officially announced as a Toronto F.C. player. I wasn’t too upset about that.
The moral of the story is this: the winter mercato is a crazy time. Unlike during the summer, when teams can bask in a veil of ignorance for the upcoming season, the January mercato is a time for desperate gambles and forced hands. The month started with rumors of Xherdan Shaqiri to Juventus, now he’s an Inter player. In fact, we ended up with Alessandro Matri back at Juventus. It’s a wild time. This is why I try to ignore the rumors, and just wait until clubs officially announce moves.
With that said, Juve’s mercato still needs to be discussed in detail. There were not really any huge moves in a Juventus context – in an MLS context, yes – and some fans may be discouraged at the lack of marquee signings. They have a point, although Juve’s success on all fronts this year doesn’t really lend these concerns any urgency. Still, it’s hardly a mercato full of joy and surprises for Juve fans.
There were some sneaky good moves made by Beppe Marotta, far more important than loaning Alessandro Matri to be a 5th string striker. For example, Daniele Rugani was purchased in full. He will join Juventus in June, and he is likely to be a star centerback for us in the future. He has put forward a very strong season with Empoli this year – impressive both for his performances and the team around him – which only built off of his fine Serie B campaign last season. Rugani is a heavily hyped centerback prospect, and Juventus is a great place for him to live up to the hype.
Similarly, Marotta also signed a host of even younger talents to Juventus. You can see all of these moves on the transfer page of this site. Of course, many of these players won’t pan out, but some will. One thing Marotta has been great at during his Juve tenure is swooping up promising young players.
Speaking of young players, Stefano Sturaro will also be joining Juventus. The midfielder, purchased over the summer but loaned back to Genoa, is also well hyped. He’s not been as strong as Rugani this season – as much as you can compare a midfielder to a centerback – but he put in good work at Genoa and has promise. Juve’s midfield is already crowded and full of studs, but Sturaro’s arrival allows for Simone Padoin to be used more often in wide areas, as well as in midfield.
Of course, the Padoin point could be null and void since Paolo De Ceglie came back to Juventus from Parma. This move basically only happened because Parma has not paid their players in months. Antonio Cassano left for the same reason, but De Ceglie is owned by Juventus still and thus came back to Juve. While De Ceglie offers some logistical flexibility since he is a home grown player, he’s also not very good. With Asamoah injured, I do expect to see him play a little bit at left back. Hopefully, the De Ceglie who scored two goals versus Inter in November is the one who shows up. Otherwise, De Ceglie could end up as in the awkward Marco Motta position: unwanted.
Finally there are the striker moves. As mentioned before, Giovinco is off to Toronto FC in Major League Soccer. Originally he was to come in the summer, but Juventus and Giovinco managed to come to an agreement, and he will be starting with Toronto immediately. The season starts in March, so we will soon see how this Juventus product fares in MLS.
Giovinco is of course being replaced by Alessandro Matri. Matri, who has had mixed results since he left Juve last summer – his Milan run was awful, his Fiorentina time alright, and he was actually pretty good for Genoa – will be the last choice striker, I imagine. The alternative to Matri was rumored to be Pablo Osvaldo, who has fallen out with the club at Inter, as he has at basically every club he has played at barring Juve. I was very fearful of Osvaldo coming to Juventus. He’s not really any better than Matri, and he is a very bad locker room presence. Last season, Antonio Conte kept him in line. I am not sure if Max Allegri could do the same, much as I like Max.
Additionally, a striking prospect was sold off. Manolo Gabbiadini was sold to Napoli early in January. The news of this move first emerged in December, and it seemed a bit odd. While Napoli paid a decent fee, Gabbiadini had been discussed as part of the future striking corps at Juventus, along with the likes of Domenico Berardi and Simone Zaza. Instead, Gabbiadini will be plying his trade with Napoli. He’s start off alright for them, too, with one goal in three appearances.
It was really an uneventful market for Juventus. Depth players were shuffled around, promising young players’ arrivals were arranged, both in the present and the future. And of course, Marotta and Fabio Paratici brought in a bunch of Primavera players. While some fans might have wanted a flashier mercato, sometimes it’s best not to make any huge changes during the winter mercato.
Marotta gets a F. I wanted lord Bendnter…
But seriously, i say this was a good transfer period. I never truly expected any big moves to happen and im happy we decided to not go with Sneijder. We secured two promising youngsters and im certain Matri only returned to help compensate for the loss of Gio. We probably wont see him much.
Although i wouldve loved to have seen the reaction of most(myself included) if we were told in the summer, right after Allegri was appointed coach, that Matri would be coming back…
The shitstorm would have only been slightly bigger, nobody wanted Allegri in the first place xD
Overall an okay winter transfer window. Very frustrating that we missed out Shaqiri and that we really didn’t do much about buying Mkhitaryan and Jovetic but the good side is that we got some very promising youngsters like Tello. Hopefully we have a brilliant summer transfer window.
Losing is in their dna. Its inevitable.
Thats why we call them Inter merda and also thats why they had to cheat to win trophies.
Mkhitaryan is overrated. Be happy we didn’t get him, he would have flopped.
I would call this a bad one. We lost Gio and got Matri instead, which is a step down in my eyes. Gio had speed, dribbles and a talent for free kicks, Matri is the same as Llorente but worse.
Youngsters is okay but none for the first team, so I don’t see much value there either.
The only positives is buying Rugani for next season and the addition of Sturaro, who hopefully does well.
I’m very disappointed by this mercato
We started off trying to buy Shaqiri and ended up with Matri.
Yup, the endless Marotta cycle, start off big and end up with crap. Aguero to Vucinic, Shaqiri to Matri and so on. Plus a whole bunch of youngsters whose purpose is to be used in other deals
It’s very disappointing. We gained nothing. Milan signs Cerci, Paletta, Destro. They’re great signings for Milan. We got Matri and De Ceglie back. Terrible signings for Juve.
We have 1 decent striker, 2 other who can fool around against Verona level opponents, but that’s all. We only have Evra as a left back, until Asamoah returns (not sure he would like to play there, he complained about that during the WC too.).
Every transfer period should be about sending a message. Even though we believe we have the best squad on the planet we should always look to strenghthen it.
This kind of transfer behavior is why Manchester United fans can be arrogant about Vidal or Pogba.
Exactly, Milan had a very good transfer market, considering its only a winter mercato. Cerci and Destro are both upgrades for them and Paletta might be rather old, he’s a good defender who will certainly strenghten Milans shitty defense.
They have improved, we’ve got two players nobody really wants and the completely untested and unproven Sturaro, though I don’t mean this in a bad way. It’s just not a real improvement.
Evra the only LB and Padoin was his understudy, now it’s possibly PDC again. Sell em both and get a decent LB like Coentrao, Schmelzer, Montoya, Rodriguez, whatever they’re all better than what we now have and defenders don’t cost so much anyway
I for one am satisfied with Juve’s work this transfer window. They didn’t to do much because it was unnecessary. The return of De Ceglie and Matri is a bit underwhelming, but it’s all good as long as they don’t get playing time.
IMO, it is a bit silly to compare Juve’s transfer window with Inter’s and Milan’s. Those teams are in dire straits and trying everything to change the trajectory of their season. Juve are in a stable place and they spent little or no money much like many other big teams (PSG, Man City, Man U, RM, Bayern, Arsenal, … etc)
i agree with you mate.summer market is gonna be the shit or bust for us.
Indeed. There could be a lot of movement this summer with all the Pogba & Vidal drama, plus the possible return of our youth.
Unnecessary? For what? Sure sure, we have a good chance to win the leage as it is, but there are way better teams than us in the CL. I thought they want to win it too, but transfer windows like this doesn’t show that.
Do you know any player in the market who
1) can help Juve’s CL chances this year
2) isn’t cup-tied and
3) would be available for a reasonable fee+salary?
I can’t think of any.
Juve can’t afford to be wasteful despite their improving finances. They need to make good financial and sporting decisions and that’s precisely what they are doing. After what they have done over the last four years, I think we can trust Agnelli, Marotta and Paratici.
Even much richer teams like PSG, Man City, Man U, RM, Bayern, Arsenal did very little this transfer window because the right opportunities weren’t there.
Everything’s for sale…
What exactly is a reasonable price (and salary)? It isn’t the 90s anymore. Decent players go over €30 millions.
Man City bought Bony for something around €32m. Is he better than Matri? I think so.
Chelsea bought Cuadrado for about €33m. Will Cuadrado actually play in their first team? Maybe not, either way he is slightly better sub than De Ceglie.
We’re signing a couple young players every year for something around 5-8m euros, and all we do with them is include in deals. We swap them around and after 3 years we act surprised that they leave for Napoli or something. I just don’t understand why don’t we put all these 5s and 8s into a 30 and go for a better player, who can actually help the first team.
Juve don’t have the kind of money Cuadrado (€33m +Salah loan) and Bony (€32m) are going for these days, not to mention the high salaries they command. Both may upgrade our roster, but the return on those investments is not great if you ask me.
The current team is not built on big-money acquisitions, with the exception of Morata. It is through smart free transfers (Pogba, Pirlo, Llorente, Coman), bargain buys (Tevez, Vidal, Lich, Bonucci), loans with options to buy (Asamoah, Pereyra,) and of course “home-grown” players. Morata only cost us €20m and I would bet his value will keep rising and/or RM buy him back for €30/35m in two years. It’s smart business.
I have some to trust Juve’s management based on their work the last 4+ years. There are two things they don’t seem to do a good job of. One, they are bad at selling surplus players, as we have seen in the case of Melo, Motta, De Ceglie, Gio, Gabiaddini … etc. Secondly, they overpaid on many of their loans-with-options-to-buy. They paid €15m+ each on the likes of Matri, Quags, Isla, etc.
I totally agree with your last paragraph.
The Morata deal: Morata is an unproven player. In my opinoin, they overpaid for him too. This is exaclty what I don’t understand. They are willing to pay €20m for a promising kid, but they are not willing to pay €25 for an already proven player? How does this work..?
“Juve don’t have the kind of money..”
What kind of money? How don’t they have it? I’m obviously in no position to judge the income and spending the whole club has, but I would guess, if Juve is the only Italian club who receives money from the CL and EL, they should be able to purchase.
I believe they don’t want to spend rather not able to. And since I don’t know the reason behind it, this whole thing disappoints me.
Edit:
“the return on those investments is not great if you ask me”
In my opinion the return would be that we can beat the teams that are ahead of us in the CL. This could broaden the number of fans the club has, thus more money. Foreign fans either follow Serie A or they don’t. If they don’t the only way to convince them to support our club instead of a PL club or a Spanish club is destroying those in the CL. With better players, we have a better chance to do so. IMO this should be a goal.
I think Morata is a fantastic player and he’s well worth the €20m Juve paid for him. He’s a 22 year-old with great size, speed and skill. I fear RM will buy him back in two years.
From the little I know, here’s how Juve’s latest finances look.
Revenue: €280m
Debt: €206m
Salary: €110m
Net loss: €7m
They may start competing with the rich clubs for flashy transfers soon if their revenue and expenses stay on the current course.
https://www2.deloitte.com/content/dam/Deloitte/na/Documents/audit/gx-football-money-league-2015.pdf
https://www.goal.com/en/news/10/italy/2014/09/24/5128707/juventus-debt-rises-to-206-million
https://www.juventus.com/wps/wcm/connect/8c203938-33a1-42d2-bd1e-0bdd903df08f/Resoconto+intermedio+di+gestione+al+30+settembre+2014+web_Eng.pdf?MOD=AJPERES&CACHEID=8c203938-33a1-42d2-bd1e-0bdd903df08f
Let’s not pretend adding Cuadrado or Bony would all of a sudden put us in a class with RMs, Barcas and Bayerns of the world, in contention to win the CL. Juve have to slowly build up to that level and they are doing that, IMO.
Of course adding them would not put us there, but adding better players to the squad than our current bench would put us in reach. Our first team is okay, but our bench is terrible. We can’t really make a sub to improve our play, maybe except Llorente down, Morata in, and this is a huge disadvantage in CL in my opinion.
I know you are right somewhere, but I don’t want to accept it.
After a lot of searching, I’ve finally found the blog post by Ennio Longo right here on JuveFC.com that describes Juve’s financial situation. I hope people appreciate Marotta’s conservative approach and limitations after reading this excellent post.
https://www.juvefc.com/88-miles-per-hour-a-statement-on-the-financial-side-of-juventus/
Marotta and co say they care about cl, but their actions prove otherwise. They said they would use this market to strengthen the squad for the cl campaign, but did we see that? No. We never go for a big name players or aplayer that is worth more than 20 mill euro, and if we do,its usually just a major tease. Ive learned to not give a f*ck anymore because it becomes overly infuriating to care. Marotta has brought players that have turned to champions, but hes still a major p*ssy and is too frightened to spend more than 15 mill on a single player,but if he does, its usually over the course of numerous years.
I still fail to be believe that after three successive years, we are unable to purchase at least one pricey player. Sure inflation has sky rocketed, but im sure we wouldve been able to afford a 35 mill euro Alexis Sanchez. Secco spent what? 50 mill on Diego and Melo in one year? Right after our unjust relegation? Youre telling me we cant spend half that much now… Marotta?
I still think Marotta has done a great job, but his constant refusing to spend is a major blow.
Exaclty. I’m pretty sure Vidal could have convince Sanchez about moving here if it was only up to Sanchez’s decision, but sadly Juve shown no intention on paying the price.
Yup. I whole heartdily bebelieve we had no intention of signing Sanchez. Marotta and Co think theyre slick…
They lie to us and it pisses me off. All that about wanting to only pay 30 mill for sanchez is bs. If Barca dropped it to 30, Marotta wouldve asked to pay 25… he has no true intention of spending more than 20 mill and these “transfer sagas” are all a hoax just to keep us quiet and happy for the moment. Its disgusting. I hate that they lie to us and cant come out and say they dont WANT to spend large sums of money…
One major win is that Juve have terminated Motta’s contract!